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		<title>By: Mana Master of Mischief</title>
		<link>http://skepticum.com/empirical-studies-show-drug-enforcement-ford-not-deter-crime/#comment-497</link>
		<dc:creator>Mana Master of Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, postifthen. But you're giving me ideas... making smiling too much illegal in America... then foreigners won't wonder why Americans smile so much anymore. Just a thought on how we can save face with the world...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, postifthen. But you&#8217;re giving me ideas&#8230; making smiling too much illegal in America&#8230; then foreigners won&#8217;t wonder why Americans smile so much anymore. Just a thought on how we can save face with the world&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: postifthen</title>
		<link>http://skepticum.com/empirical-studies-show-drug-enforcement-ford-not-deter-crime/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>postifthen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 04:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me "legalization" is a filthy word, full of preloaded bullshit.  Drugs shouldn't have to be "legalized." 

Every American should have the right to do to themselves whatever they want.  The government doesn't own my body, I do.

To me legalizing a drug is like legalizing the right for a child to spin in circles to get dizzy.

Lets call it constitutional restoration.

Laws never, never, ever, ever, change the rate of addiction.  No law in the history of the U.S. has stopped someone from becoming addicted.  No law has ever changed the addiction rate.   Sadly, it appears the racism and oppression of drug/slavery laws in the U.S. simply encourage and foster greater drug use and violent commerce.

The drug war failed.  Every "war" the govt. wages like wars on poverty, drugs, etc. seems to fail.

By that logic, lets have a war on freedom, intoxication, Atheism, Secularism, Humanism, Puppies, Pornography, Comedy, Buddhism, people that smile too much, math, reading, science and philosophy.  I think we should make more plants illegal, like coffee beans, tea and hops.  We will get more varieties, they will be higher quality and potency and you will have door to door sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me &#8220;legalization&#8221; is a filthy word, full of preloaded bullshit.  Drugs shouldn&#8217;t have to be &#8220;legalized.&#8221; </p>
<p>Every American should have the right to do to themselves whatever they want.  The government doesn&#8217;t own my body, I do.</p>
<p>To me legalizing a drug is like legalizing the right for a child to spin in circles to get dizzy.</p>
<p>Lets call it constitutional restoration.</p>
<p>Laws never, never, ever, ever, change the rate of addiction.  No law in the history of the U.S. has stopped someone from becoming addicted.  No law has ever changed the addiction rate.   Sadly, it appears the racism and oppression of drug/slavery laws in the U.S. simply encourage and foster greater drug use and violent commerce.</p>
<p>The drug war failed.  Every &#8220;war&#8221; the govt. wages like wars on poverty, drugs, etc. seems to fail.</p>
<p>By that logic, lets have a war on freedom, intoxication, Atheism, Secularism, Humanism, Puppies, Pornography, Comedy, Buddhism, people that smile too much, math, reading, science and philosophy.  I think we should make more plants illegal, like coffee beans, tea and hops.  We will get more varieties, they will be higher quality and potency and you will have door to door sales.</p>
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		<title>By: jb1125</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the long term goal should be legalization, but you can't just let gang members roam the streets. 

Hundreds of people are being killed in New Orleans due to gang violence. These gangs that sell drugs are empowered by the lack of enforcement. 

The increase in criminal activity due to the lack of enforcement is a disincentive for people to return and makes it harder to rebuild infrastructure. So, you can't fix roofs, if gangs steal your equipment. The best way to get rid of the gangs would be to eliminate their source of income by legalizing drugs, but that won't happen anytime soon, so the best legal way is to increase enforcement. 

I would argue that allowing gangs to freely sell drugs is against the interests of people opposed to war on drugs. In order to create real change, there needs to be a political consensus, and if drug dealers, who are killing people, roam the streets , then they can be used as an example of what will happen if you legalize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the long term goal should be legalization, but you can&#8217;t just let gang members roam the streets. </p>
<p>Hundreds of people are being killed in New Orleans due to gang violence. These gangs that sell drugs are empowered by the lack of enforcement. </p>
<p>The increase in criminal activity due to the lack of enforcement is a disincentive for people to return and makes it harder to rebuild infrastructure. So, you can&#8217;t fix roofs, if gangs steal your equipment. The best way to get rid of the gangs would be to eliminate their source of income by legalizing drugs, but that won&#8217;t happen anytime soon, so the best legal way is to increase enforcement. </p>
<p>I would argue that allowing gangs to freely sell drugs is against the interests of people opposed to war on drugs. In order to create real change, there needs to be a political consensus, and if drug dealers, who are killing people, roam the streets , then they can be used as an example of what will happen if you legalize.</p>
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		<title>By: johnny</title>
		<link>http://skepticum.com/empirical-studies-show-drug-enforcement-ford-not-deter-crime/#comment-479</link>
		<dc:creator>johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Well, Barack Obama, you know what else is a poor use of resources? Creating a second DEA office in New Orleans when people still have holes in their roofs and mud in their basements. &lt;/i&gt;

So true...

I think the only way the drug war will be disbanded is if it is done so quietly.  Like when the "don't ask, don't tell" policy became the norm for the military.  There is too much conservative backwash to try for the American people to swallow anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Well, Barack Obama, you know what else is a poor use of resources? Creating a second DEA office in New Orleans when people still have holes in their roofs and mud in their basements. </i></p>
<p>So true&#8230;</p>
<p>I think the only way the drug war will be disbanded is if it is done so quietly.  Like when the &#8220;don&#8217;t ask, don&#8217;t tell&#8221; policy became the norm for the military.  There is too much conservative backwash to try for the American people to swallow anything else.</p>
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